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katexmonster
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:17 pm    Post subject: is the textbook Genki 2 sufficient for Level 3 exam?

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I am using Genki textbooks right now, I am doing every practice exercise they have (I try! there are so many!!!!!! therefore, for Genki 1, I didn't do any workbook exercise.) >___<;

If you've used/studied with the Genki series, please tell me if Genki 2 covers most of the grammar rules for Level 3~

I am posting in the Level 4 forum, but if the difference b/w what Genki 2 covers and Level 3 has is not too much, I would love to take Level 3 exam instead. =/ Hmm...

thanks ahead!!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:15 am    Post subject:

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Hi Kate Monster. First of all, your screen name rocks. Not sure how many people get the reference there, but I do!

I used Genki I in college, then graduated and worked through Genki II on my own. I then took the Level 3 test (yesterday in new york, actually), and feel that I did very well. Genki covers MOST of what you need to know, including vocab, grammar, and kanji. However, there are some vocab, grammar and kanji topics that are on the test but not covered in Genki. These are few and far between, but they exist. For that reason, I'd suggest taking a look at all of the resources on this site and make flashcards for level 3 stuff you don't know. If you do that, and finish Genki II, I'd say your knowledge is at a sufficient level for taking the level 3 test. Hope this helps.

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katexmonster
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:34 am    Post subject:

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hey, thesleeve, thank you for your reply!
i'm from ny too! we should talk! by the way, i once lived on ave. q. (which does not exist, but it's supposed to be ave. q)
Anyway, I am very glad that Genki 2 covers most of the stuff, because I think the genki series is very good and i usually understand & remember the grammars they teach~ How did you do for your Level 3?

Well, I will start studying for Level 3. and see if I would be able to take Level 3 next December~ Confused

Anyway, I thought colleges would cover more than just Genki 1.
I always wonder what other books/shows (e.g. story books, etc) that college students are required to read/watch. I heard that people watch 千と千尋の神隠し and discuss about it in class.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: is the textbook Genki 2 sufficient for Level 3 exam?

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katexmonster wrote:
tell me if Genki 2 covers most of the grammar rules for Level 3

Hi katexmonster,

I studied with Genki 1 and 2 and found that it covers almost all of the grammar for level 3. There's a couple of grammar points that aren't in there, but I got them covered by Minna Nihongo as I remember it.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:34 am    Post subject:

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Also, I heard "An Integrated Approach to Intermediate Japanese" will be a good follow-up after Genki II, and a nice approach towards Level 2.

Has anyone used it? Since I just finished Genki II a few weeks ago, I'm planning on picking it up.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 8:20 am    Post subject:

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thesleeve, are you going to take level 3 jlpt in 2007?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:34 am    Post subject:

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TheSleeve wrote:
Also, I heard "An Integrated Approach to Intermediate Japanese" will be a good follow-up after Genki II,

Yes, it is a good follow up and is *exactly* what I picked up after Genki Wink
I'm still reading it every day. But I should say, we need a lot more to get to level 2 standard, though! The journey has begun...


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:43 am    Post subject:

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it seems like a very big jump from level 3 to level 2--from learning 700-800 vocab per level to learning 5000ish-1409=3500 vocab. plus all of the grammar rules too??! Hmm...
it will be hard enough to recogne all of them, let alone memorizing. =/ *worrying already* hehe...

I wonder if people have to spend 2 years to study for level 2 (maybe 1.5 year but since the exam is annual, it becomes 2.)

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:44 am    Post subject:

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katexmonster wrote:
it seems like a very big jump from level 3 to level 2-

Yes, it's huge. And a common source of complaint Wink

It would be ideal if there were a level inbetween 3 and 2. It would certainly make sense, and you're right that it would take most (normal) people 2 years rather than 1.

We have one forum member, Tim, who is a super genius who passed it in one year!

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 12:15 pm    Post subject:

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nooooo i don't want another level!! haha, i bet i will feel like it's too far away from the top that i would just rather stay on level 3/4~ hehe. =p

i assumes Tim does not know any kanji when he started studying Japanese? you know, the only reason i even dare to attempt level 3 is because i can read chinese (it doesn't always help, >_< it helps with my reading, say, if i pick up a newspaper; but nothing more. as the matter of fact, i am confused w/ the pronounciations all the time because a lot of words sound so similar!!! >_< (to me anyway~))

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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject:

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This doesn't address grammar or vocab, but regarding the kanji... It used to be that Genki I covered all of the kanji for the 4kyuu and Genki I+II covered all the kanji for the 3kyuu, but since the most recent JLPT revisions this is no longer true. Still, as others have said it covers a lot of the current 4 and 3kyuu kanji.

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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject:

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katexmonster wrote:
nooooo i don't want another level!! haha, i bet i will feel like it's too far away from the top that i would just rather stay on level 3/4~ hehe. =p

i assumes Tim does not know any kanji when he started studying Japanese? you know, the only reason i even dare to attempt level 3 is because i can read chinese (it doesn't always help, >_< it helps with my reading, say, if i pick up a newspaper; but nothing more. as the matter of fact, i am confused w/ the pronounciations all the time because a lot of words sound so similar!!! >_< (to me anyway~))


Thats true that I started with no kanji knowledge when I started studying Japanese.

The jump between level 2 and 3 is huge, but if you use tools such as "ocha no kanji" (which now seems to be difficult to find now), you can learn the kanji and vocab more quickly. That was likely one of the biggest influences on my studies for level 2. I don't have a copy of it anymore, but if anyone has a copy of it, can you post a link as it would be a great kanji and vocab study tool for people who are attempting levels 2-4.

Ocha no kanji is a spreadsheet with macros in it to allow you to select kanji and take quizes on the readings of the vocab that use the same kanji. It also maps out in different colours the kanji that you have memorised and the ones that you have gotten wrong. It also has some logic in it to simulate the fogetting process and thus it lets you know which kanji you need to revise so the kanji and vocab stay in your long term memory.

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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject:

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I found a link to it: http://www.jocksamurai.co.uk/modules/mydownloads/index.php

Download Ocha no Kanji and enable macros in excel to use it.
I hope you find it useful.

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