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chandrak
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:41 am    Post subject: 2009 July Level1 result

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hi all,

I failed in Level1 by 3rd time scoring below marks.
語彙 64/100
聴解 :50/100
読解:100/200
just wondering how to clear this. I know kanji and vocabulary should be more strong. but worried about listening too.

i am not sure which book is good enough to learn kanji..i read many kanji books but end of only 64%.

can somebody through me points to improve myself. what should be my next approach..

Thanks for advice in advance

regards
Jaichan

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naruru
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject:

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Your next approach is to read real Japanese materials. Textbooks and language-learning books aren't enough to improve the language. (i.e. Kanji-only learning book isn't going to take you anywhere unless you are studying Chinese (Mandarin/Cantonese/Taiwanese)!) Japanese is not Chinese. ♥

Read a newspaper and learn the kanji/words while reading. Read it out loud. Record yourself too! How did you learn your native language? Smile

This is just my tip though since I learn it the native way. I suggest you read this. He has passed 1kyuu right after passing 2kyuu within a year. Very Happy

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manuel
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:17 pm    Post subject:

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I second that.

Read real Japanese texts, watch news in Japanese (the NHK news can be found on their website) and you'll be fine.

I never really "studied" or crammed for Japanese at home and still passed level 1. All you need to do is read a lot and listen a lot.

Good luck next time!

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chandrak
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:22 pm    Post subject:

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Hi all

Thanks for your reply.

Regarding listening, not sure what to study and where to start.
Can you guys tell me how and which method works to improve listening.

Any proper material will help me to improve listening? i already went thru UNICOM listening book and all past question papers listening.
but finally i end up with only 50%.

News in japanese is fine..but getting more tired to find out the vocabulary meanings...parallely.

Can somebody give me some tips to raise my score more.

regards

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skim
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Joined: 12 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:02 am    Post subject:

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When I was studying English, what my private instructor and I did was read one chapter, or a few pages of a big novel, and then we would talk about what had happened during the chapter, what had happened before the chapter, and then try to guess what will happen from then on. And then by the next week, it was my job to underline or otherwise copy down words or sentences I didn't understand from that week's reading, and we would review those together.

But yeah, reading a lot is definitely a score booster, not only in listening and reading, but also as a huge vocab booster (some words you just can't figure out until they're put into a sentence)


and while unrelated, I took a practice test recently, and my score was..
vocab: 73/100, listening: 64/100, reading&grammar: 92/200; total 229/400 (57%? eww)
Although I've gotta say, although I still need to read and know more vocab, actually sitting for 3 hours was the toughest part for me, hahaha. I haven't heard that they allow a break or anything in the middle of the test, so I guess I need to work on sitting in one seat for 3 hours in addition to studying more Japanese.

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chandrak
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:32 am    Post subject:

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hi skim

so you are also appearing for level1?
looks like you are very close to pass level than me.

No matter what you study...but exam paper should contain kanjis/vocabularys which you studied..otherwise you are out of exam.

I am worried much about listening..because some people score more(80%) on that but fail on vocabulary/reading. does it mean listening need more vocabulary to know?.. something is missing.

Just keep listening approach is fine, but still not sure whether you are listening relevant to exam..if listening scope is out of books the why people sell JLPT books for listening i dont know.

unless there is JLPT listening books available people like me score only less than 70%.

Anyway..now its time to findout the problems how to improve listening.
atleast 20% improve in listening will do more difference in JLPT .

regards

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naruru
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:17 pm    Post subject:

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Try listening to stories! Smile

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skim
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject:

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chandrak wrote:
hi skim

so you are also appearing for level1?
looks like you are very close to pass level than me.

No matter what you study...but exam paper should contain kanjis/vocabularys which you studied..otherwise you are out of exam.

I am worried much about listening..because some people score more(80%) on that but fail on vocabulary/reading. does it mean listening need more vocabulary to know?.. something is missing.

Just keep listening approach is fine, but still not sure whether you are listening relevant to exam..if listening scope is out of books the why people sell JLPT books for listening i dont know.

unless there is JLPT listening books available people like me score only less than 70%.

Anyway..now its time to findout the problems how to improve listening.
atleast 20% improve in listening will do more difference in JLPT .

regards


I used to listen to a song and try to write down everything they said, or watch a TV show and write down everything that was said for the creation of a translation or subtitles. o_O I think I've probably subtitled 3 movies and 4 series (26 episodes) by myself into Korean, in addition to helping out in a few different English subber groups.

There's a lot of words that you kind of skip over in a sentence if you are able to get a gist of what the sentence says, but for me the little words are the hardest part, so getting nitty-gritty with what was being said was helpful for me.

Nowadays I also read into a mic a lot and play it back to myself to see if I sound "Japanese," and to make sure I don't mumble (speaking is not part of the JLPT, but it's still nice to hear yourself talk) because I think speaking clearly demonstrates confidence in what one knows. I've also been listening to (and participating a little bit) Yahoo voice chats on Yahoo Japan, but people there aren't always speaking clearly or using the best mic or using a wide variety of vocabulary, so I mostly use it for fun, not for serious study.

Try to watch as much movies and dramas as you can... Try to watch without subtitles, and then with subtitles, and see how much you've missed. Read about your hobbies in Japanese. If anything has a Japanese version and one of your first language, read the Japanese one first, and take notes about what you think you've read. Then compare it with the non-Japanese version and see what you've missed.


Gosh, I feel a little redundant because I think this is pretty much the advice everyone else is offering, but listening isn't my biggest concern... more like my listening score suffers because I have a lousy short term memory (Even if these listening tests were in English or Korean, I'd probably not be able to score above a 80%), and the vocab is just slipping through my fingers hahaha.

I tried out the 2002 test as a practice, and got a score like this: Vocab: 57% - Listening: 74% - Reading&Grammar: 62% - Total score: 64% (255/400) *70% is pass.

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